Friday, November 19, 2010

"In the Grip of Graffiti"

Hello!

For your first blog entry write your opinion on the use of graffiti. Then, respond to at least one classmates' journal entry. Due Tuesday.

Happy Trails!
Mr. B

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  2. I think graffiti is both good and bad. It's bad because someone graffiti on the side of our house and we had to get rid of it even though we didn't do it. Graffiti is somewhat good too because it turns our city colorful and not some dull white and gray place. It is also showing your artistic side to the world.

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  3. I think that graffiti is a work of art! But then the Con group was very convincing today. I'm not saying that the Pro group is not convincing though. Well, if graffiti was to be used, I think people should do graffiti legally.

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  4. I disagree with kitty there is such thing as paper and graffiti is illegal!!!!

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  5. Graffiti is good because it can express your feelings by writing on walls so everyone could know. So it should not be illegal. Graffiti is so cool because you can write your feelings and design in a awesome way.

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  6. I think Graffiti is good and bad because it gives the world some color but if you do it illegally, then you could be damaging property and people won’t be able to read signs and stuff like that. Heheheh. =Þ

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  7. Graffiti Stupid:waste of time, man It cost MILLIONS of dollars to remove it. Graffiti is illegal and people can use PAPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Graffiti cause gangsters and mobs of people who gang up and kill Ms. Hayes gave an example of a mob in the morning and mobs are treating people and cause lock downs.Hi.If people do graffiti then more people start doing graffiti.Hi.

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  8. I agree with Jenny. But graffiti cost a lot to remove so I don't really get why people do graffiti on walls. Shouldn't they just like ask for permission before they actually do graffiti on somebody's wall/house?!

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  9. I think graffiti is both good and bad because graffiti shows the artists feelings and talents. I also think it makes the world more colorful. But some people think it's terrible because it's on their houses and building. For me I like both sides.=]

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  10. I think that graffiti is a work of art and it is so awesome

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  11. I agree with Jenny because it is both GOOD and BAD. I think it's bad when it's on personal property or signs,etc. But it's good because it lets people express themselves.

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  12. I agree with Marvin and Sienna because if you are expressing yourself you can be heard and not tied up in a corner and Sienna because you could use paper instead of someone's property.

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  13. Graffiti is awesome! i am personally amazed and stoked at these wonderful graffiti artists!:)
    It may be illegal but if it was legal would it be fun? i mean..if u did not have cops trying to find u.. BORING!!!!! Some graffiti can be ugly but most of it isn't. then again...Personal Opinion. i may like it....some people don't. but don't be shy..stand up and some something please. Graffiti is a waste of time! Some people quote. it is just ruining cities and towns! use paper! people complain. graffiti is to show confidence. if u just stand around and let other people lead your lives it is like having a boss 24/7. no fun. if u write your thoughts down, u might not get heard. be heard. not every body has time to start a petition or yell something in the middle of a highly populated area.graffiti may be dangerous and expensive but...GET UP AND TAKE A WALK ON THE WILD SIDE!!!!

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  14. I disagree with monkey(Marvin)and I agree with Sienna hihihihihihihihihihihihihihihiyhihihihihihihihihihihihi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  15. I think that the use of graffiti is good and bad. I think it is good if it is a mural and has wonderful artwork. I think it is bad if we can't read it or if it says something bad. It really depends on what the art is to you. If it is illegal then you can't do anything about it. If you really like it then see what other people think about it. It is your opinion what you think.

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  16. I agree with Kitty. Those those guys should get permission to paint graffiti on their property.=]=]

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  17. I think graffiti isn't that bad unless someone is doing it illegally, or not giving the right meaning, then i don't find it very "appropriate..."

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  18. Graffiti is still both good and bad for me. But graffiti is cool like what Marvin said. But then it just cost so much to remove them.

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  19. Even though graffiti is expensive to remove, my dad painted over it without wasting more than $10(I think).

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  20. I agree with Jenny that graffiti is both good and bad to people. If people considered graffiti is art, they will like it. But if people thinks graffiti is bad, they might not like it. Graffiti can make people's house looks awful. Such as the gangs writing unnecessary stuff in people's property. Also, it's a good thing because it can make the world more colorful and creative.

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  21. Graffiti is horrible! From my opinion, it looks ugly! How's it even helpful!

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  22. i disagree with stupid andrew because and i agree with myself

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  23. It's helpful when it makes the place colorful

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  24. Andrew!!!!!!Stop with the HIs!!!!!!!

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  25. Honestly, I was one of the people with the debate on how graffiti is good. I think it's a way to express yourself. People may say that write it on paper (K, Shortie, and Junior) but it's not like Obama is gonna see it and say, "Oh that's wonderful let me show it to all my friends." Like nobody will pay attention to it; and just because you talk with your voice that doesn't mean that Leonardo DiCaprio is gonna hear you state your opinion and put in in a movie, and then say he was inspired by your own comment. So when you graffiti that mean you're expressing yourself and people will see it and pay attention to it and take pictures. It can be beautiful. You don't wanna live your life in the shadows waiting to come out and have your own shadow, you need to walk your own path and become known. You won't become known if you just say your opinion matters, but people won't necessarily recognize that you stated that comment/opinion.
    I know, I'm deep.

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  26. I agree with people who said that graffiti is good and bad. It really just depends on what you think.

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  27. Graffiti is not right because the art work that you think is pretty is a mural and most likely legal. The graffiti that is illegal is probly ugly and just plain stupid like "yogurt"

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  28. I agree with you Bebe.

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  29. I think graffiti is good and bad. Many people can express themselves. But, some people spray on houses, like mine.

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  30. I partially agree with both Jenny and Erica. But graffiti is still horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  31. I'm stumped, graffiti is illegal but graffiti is also an art. For this I have to agree with both con and pro. But con had the best presentation for me. I was really convinced to want con had to say but pro had very good rebuttals. Graffiti, a wonderful source of creativity and artistic talent but also a ugly, meaningful, dangerous way to use.

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  32. graffiti is a beautiful thing. It is a great way to brighten up a dull expanse of blank emptiness that is the forbidden canvas. If the government really wants to stop it they should stop trying to give us,the people of the U.S. and any other country that views it as a problem, a false sense of security by posting adds and having reminders every flipping two minutes on the stupid bus. I mean if nobody is doing anything even with the reminders what does this say to the law enforcement. And for those people who argue that graffiti is indirectly responsible for deaths in the U.S. i ask, what is the fatality rate per year? and we the people have a right to be stupid, if it was that bad, they would have thought of it in the 243 years America has been founded. Graffiti also has helped record events in history. In 2,000 years today's graffiti can help historians find out about today's society. Saying graffiti is wrong is like saying that the early hominids were wrong to do their cave paintings. Yes graffiti can depict disturbing things like a picture of capitalism, first of all, what the heck is Capitalism? second of all just because there is something on the wall doesn't mean someone will follow it graffiti rules!!

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  33. I think graffiti is bad because you need to pay alot of money to remove it.Graffiti can be in paper or just draw it in a board if u want it big.Graffiti is not understandable toother people.It blocks people window and don't give them sonlight.It is good for you but not other peopl+e.

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  34. Ok, why do people even do that. It is so wrong I mean if it is not your property don't tag it. It's not yours. Also when people graffiti they get the paint in their lungs and they get cancer.

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  35. I think that graffiti is way that people can express their feelings. It is also a way of creating art.

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  36. I think graffiti is bad; it makes business look inappropriate or judgmental. Any way of trying to stop graffiti would either be hopeless or probably convince more people to graffiti. Even if there was a graffiti red center or something, most people would probably not want to drive to or be ashamed for people to see themselves graffiti. It would just waste community money that could be spent finding cures for cancer and Haiti and those types of causes.

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  38. i think of graffiti as a good way to express your feelings and a way to make really good public art. if graffiti was legalized it would be a good way to give life to a neghborhood or even a city.

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  39. i think graffiti is good and bad.i think graffiti is good because it helps teenagers express their feelings and expressions.it also might get a job as an artist and other jobs that has to do something about art.the thing that's bad is that people use a lot of money on re-painting their houses.graffiting is also illegal, so if the graffiter gets caught, they can go to jail.

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  40. I think graffiti is bad & stuff but i still think it's sick. The thing about it is that it's bad & can kill you and i don't want to die so yeah. It's a big waste of money. People have to spend money to get it re-painted. So nobody should do it. Even if though it looks sick it sucks in a way and makes people mad and stuff.

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  41. i think graffiti is bad because you might not get permission to draw in someones house and they will have to pay a lot of money for something you did and you might go to jail.

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  42. I think graffiti is art but when people paint in private properties is not really fun for me.

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  43. i dont agree with isaac bewcause if graffiti didnt exsist boring neighborhoods would be boring for generations to come.

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  44. I think graffiti is cool because it is a cool way of expressing yourself as an artist.Also I think graffiti is very good drawing and a good art.The point of graffiti is to show off although I think graffiti is a way of showing how art can be beautiful.

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  45. I think graffiti should be illegal because it is damaging property. It is also making people suffer the fume when they spray paint the walls. They should have some permission so that they can do graffiti but if they don't have permission they shouldn't write on people's property. They should have a contract so that they can get permission. It should also be helpful if people would vote no for graffiti because it is just bad.

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  46. I think Graffiti is a BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF ART :)

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  47. Graffiti is both AWESOME and is a THREAT.hi!!!=) =( =0 =]

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  48. i disagree with Jeancarlo. I don't think people would care if there wasn't any graffiti on the boring walls.

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  49. graffiti is cool if its legal...

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  50. i will not stop saying HI hihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihi1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  51. C'mon Camilla graffiti is weird and messy

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  52. so many comments isn't that great

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  53. I obsoletely agree with Meg and Camilla!!!!!!!!

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  54. graffiti is cool and bad. It's awesome art and bad damage to weird people.

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  55. seinna, sienna, sienna. seinna. If you really hate graffiti... Wyoming is the big square under Montana. If you start now you can move out by 8:30 am tomorrow morning. Graffit is a part of the city package so we can only make it legel mahawhawhawhaw!!!!!!!!!

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  56. andrew GRAFFITI isn't wierd and messy I am. and if it cost so much here's my suggestion.... stop trying to cover it up you'll save alot of money then

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  57. I ABSOLUTELY agree with Gabby that graffiti is cool if it's legal and IF people think so too because it's not art unless it's a masterpiece judged by PEOPLE'S OPINIONS and not just your opinion.

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  58. I agree with Camilla, so hands down.:D

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  59. I think graffiti is both good and bad. the good part about graffiti is that it's art that is expressing your feelings. The bad part about graffiti is that it's words that we don't really agree with. Sure, graffiti is art but when you graffiti on other people's property, it takes a lot of money to remove it.Graffiti is part of good and bad.

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  60. I'm sorry I posted so late! I didn't know we hafd to make a BLOGSPOT account. Well, here is my comment/post.

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  61. I think graffti is good and bad. Graffti is good because you can express yourself and people could see it too. Graffti is bad because some grafftis you can really read it and it takes a lot of money to remove it.

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  62. yes I finally agree with Tracy It takes MILLIONS of dollars to remove graffiti and besides it's ILLEGAL. III guess when you stop covering it you would save money. But it's still illegal, and people can wright on paper and post up their awesome work with tape/staples then can remove it.

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  63. I think graffiti is good and bad. Bad because some graffiti is illegal. The illegal type is more gang style and that's illegal because most people in gangs just do it on walls on murals and can ruin artwork. It's good because there is legal graffiti. Legal graffiti is when you get permission to do graffiti. Murals are graffiti but they get permission to do it because they want the world to be bright and shining. It's also bad bacuse when you remove the graffiti the gangs do it cost a lot and that will cause taxes higher and more trouble to us. Murals can be ruined by the gaang artwork of bad people.
    I only think graffiti good if it's a mural to impress people when there upset or something,and bad because it will cause to much hard work in business on the street.

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  64. I think graffiti is something difficult to deal with. Many people enjoy some graffiti and many think there terrible. I usually dislike graffiti but when I see a fascinating graffiti picture, I study it and enjoy it.

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  65. When dealing with graffiti, I'm on the Con side. Graffiti is a way of expressing yourself, but as the debate team mentioned, you can share your emotions with a pencil and a piece of paper. That way, there is no need for people to pay the expensive prices to remove it. Some graffiti is done just for the sake of property damage. As in when you're in a gang and you have to prove yourself. Or maybe you just want to act cool or tough so that you can feel high and mighty for a few seconds until you get caught and fined for vandalism.

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  66. Graffiti, from my opinion, is also something that expresses feelings depending on the taggers mood. I agree with Reina because there is beautiful graffiti and graffiti related to dangerous gangs. Graffiti is happening too often and that is why people are complaining. Generally, at some occasions, grffiti can be great.

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  67. Graffiti, a wonder to all. Graffiti can be divided in to two groups; plain stupid writing or an exciting piece of work. So it matters what your talking about. They're both very illegal, you can be arrested, and costs you a fine. Graffiti is an art because people get payed for decorating businesses and buildings. So, technically, it is an art but it is illegal(unless you have permission from owner).

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  68. In response to Camilla's long, but reasonable comment, graffiti is only "a way to brighten up a dull expanse of blank emptiness" when it is good. If you don't stop the good artists from doing graffiti, you can't stop the bad artists from doing graffiti (and there are probably more bad artists than good ones.) Unlike most graffiti, ads are legal, and payed for. They also don't cover important signs that can save a person's life such as "One Way". And I don't like to think of cave paintings as graffiti because graffiti is the act writing or drawing on property, and since nobody owns the cave, it isn't exactly graffiti. In the last part of the comment, she mentioned that "just because there is something on the wall doesn't mean someone will follow it." Here is also something Meg said "So when you graffiti that mean you're expressing yourself and people will see it and pay attention to it and take pictures ...You won't become known if you just say your opinion matters" Think about the two comments. I did, and I came up with-So just because someone writes something important on the wall to express their feelings, doesn't mean that someone will care, that's no different than shouting it out, except that talking is legal.

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  69. My posts got erased THREE times already and I haven't gotten to write ANYTHING at ALL because of this COMPUTER!!!!!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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  70. STEFANI MAKE SURE A LITTLE THING THAT AKS YOU WHAT LETTER YOU SEE POPS UP AND DON'T PRESS THE BACK BUTTON ON WITH MY COMMENT.I want you all to kind of " close your eyes" in a sense that your focus is comepletly focused on these words. Turn of any music and relax you are only seeing with your minds eye. Now pretend your on a bus in the middle of rush hour. You look around you and everything is in solid colors. there is no trim on houses. People have the same color top, there bottom half of their cloths are the same color. The bus is comepleatly clean of any graffiti and the signs are all in tac. You ride all the way to the end of the line and see no graffiti. What is your first thought? how do you feel? Before you say I'm happy the city is so clean, there aren't as many murals because like half the artist didn't practice on paper seinna they started on walls. For all pro people to support graffiti with a gmail, change your theme to graffiti and all cons can do basic white because that is how colorful your ideal world is!!! >=(

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  71. I think that graffiti is good and bad because it can be art or just a HUGE piece of information that you are horrible and not going to stop. For the con side, graffiti can hurt businesses by making it look ugly and un-inviting to customers. It also damages property so people have to pay to get it cleaned (to Camilla, if you have graffiti on your house, people will tink that you are a gangster).For the pro side, I think that graffiti is inspiring art to (almost) all people. Graffiti and tagging are both two different words, graffiti being unapproved writing on someone's property, but tagging is the unapproved writing of CUSSING, NICKNAMES(of graffiti artists), and MANY inappropriate other things, but the bad things are about TAGGING, NOT graffiti. Graffiti was once thought to ALWAYS be bad. Things we can do about graffiti is that we can make a place where people who are great graffiti artists can just graffiti their artwork on, and older graffiti artists can be hired for a paying job to make murals of their own thoughts and expressions on drab city walls. Iwould go with both pro and con.

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  72. i don't care what they think they can go and eat there own cats used litter because they don't know me!!! you can write me down in history with all the harrible twisted lies. You can stomp me into the very ground but just like dust I'll rise ( maya angalou).some lyrics:
    old new york was once new amsterdam. why they changed it I can't say maybe they liked it better that way.
    it's basicly saying that it's done and whoever did felt like it. that is one of my smaller reasons I like graffiti.

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  73. Graffiti can be considered an art, but it can be ugly. I mean seriously, who wastes their time trying to figure out what someone means when they write on your wall? If someone tags my house and ONLY if it was meaningless and ugly, I would would spend my time removing it. But then again,you wonder how these people are able to make such amazing artwork. So, I'm gonna have to go with BOTH pro and con. I still don't understand why its called pro and con. Anyway.

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  74. I agree with Heyaw when he says graffiti is an art, but can be ugly. I think that pro and con had a great debate.

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  75. I don't like graffiti because it's really ugly and it's illegal. I don't even get why people even do graffiti because it's damaging other people's property and they'll have to pay for the damage that the graffiti person made which isn't supposed to be because the owners didn't do it so why do they even have to pay for the damage? It's also dangerous because if you go out to do graffiti one night and someone who has been stalking you was trying to kill or hurt you and then that does happen, you won't come home and your family would be really worried about you.

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  76. I agree with Sienna because the one that said yogurt was really stupid and why did that person even bother to write yogurt on the owner's property. Don't they have something that's better do do instead??????

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  77. i think that graffiti is wrong because you are not only damaging other peoples property but also it can cost a lot of money to repaint it

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  78. Graffiti is NOT wrong!!! >:( It's a work of art but then it's just that it is hard to remove! Graffiti awesome~

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  79. ok the yogurt thing seems dumb but that doesn't mean all graffiti is stupid. It's almost like racism or sexism because just because one is like that doesn't mean all is. Also I remember one night when we were driving over twin peaks and I saw all the lights of the city. I remembered all the homeless and things that people complain about, but I couldn't see them. So it occured to me that there are things that you really should care about like apperance, and what you do for a living. But then there's the things you can't affect like the weather. You can argue, rally, complain and write polititions, but the rain will keep coming done until it's done. That's something specail, nobody can completely control a person. Someone else and myself can agree on something but we agree as an individul. And I know some people are going to say,"then you shouldn't try and tell people to like graffiti that makes you a hipicrit" but persusion is when we invite people into our own minds and show them what we fing good or bad. This is somewhat simmiliar to the rise of the nazis because all these people saw what they viewed as good even though others veiwed it as bad. onother thing is that people say graffitist don't care if they cover a sign, today I saw some graffiti on a sign that thwe person like dodged all the words on the sign purpusly. well now i'm going to see another one of my fave blogs peace out!!!=)

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  80. I agree with both Kitty and Jenny. Graffiti can be the most beautiful thing you've ever seen or it can be just a way to be devious. I only like legal graffiti, but illegal graffiti and tagging is just wrong. Both teams convinced me to be a pro or a con. I think I'd a pro or a con combo like Hari. I bet the whole class (including me) were hooked at that powerpoint by the con, but the pro team had some strong words in response. With graffiti maybe some people don't have paper, or they don't have a big enough sheet of paper to work with. When people say graffiti is wrong it's like your imagination is limited. Yes I know it's a lot of money to remove it, but that's like taking away a piece of art in a museum.

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  81. I think that graffiti has its pros and its cons. I am not really taking sides here because it can be good and bad at the same time.
    I think it is good because it can express someone's feelings. It can influence a person on making the right choice! It is a very good thing because you can you can admire someone anonymously by even painting a mural. It can some how calm you down or even relax you because you are drawing on a huge canvas.
    I think graffiti is bad because you can also crush someone's feelings. You may also destroy someone's property. Even though people like it many pay to remove graffiti.So some people dont really appreciate the art that people do. We all have diffrent feelings about graffiti.

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  82. My opinion on graffiti is that it can be both good and bad. I think graffiti is good because it is a beautiful type of art and it can make the place more colorful. Also, it can let people express their feelings. Graffiti can be bad because it damages people's property and it cause many problems to the owners.

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  83. I agree with Hari because he said that graffiti can be considered, but it can be ugly.

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  84. My opinion is graffiti can be bad, because it can cover important signs, can damage property, and may cost millions in the future that will leave a mark in the economy.

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  85. I think graffiti is a way to express yourself. I think graffiti can be in good use and in bad. In a good use, graffiti can be used for murals to create beautiful art. In a bad use, gangs use graffiti to write on any open space to seem like they are tough or cool. But really, they are destroying property.

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  86. I agree with Elisa that graffiti does have some pros and cons. I think Elisa was right when she said it can crush peoples feelings and damage property. I also agree with her when she said she was not taking sides. I'm also not taking sides because graffiti is a good thing and a bad.

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  87. i think that graffiti is sometimes good and sometimes bad. the good part of graffiti is it's art.And the bad part is that they spray at your walls

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  88. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS LEGAL GRAFFITI!!! IF YOU GET PERMISSION THEN IT'S A MURAL OR DECORATING!!! >=(

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  89. I think the art side of graffiti is great. But, so much is illegally I find it hard to truely support graffiti. Graffiti is a major problem, but I support it as long as it's done with permission of the owner of the thing that's being graffitied on. Graffiti has been a problem for a long time it is basicly art. If illegal graffiti is going to be stopped it's going to take a lot of work to get rid of. It isn't goes to be gone any time soon ,because the world has bigger problems.

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  90. Camilla your statment isn't accurate some graffiti artists don't care about covering sighs up but other graffiti artists do.

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  91. i think graffi is beautiful but gaffiti artists have to understand that if they want to do graffiti they can use paper because if they do it on other people's property because they can go to jail for that

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  92. I agree with Laura A. that you shouldn't do grafitti on other people's property and that you should respect it.

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  93. graffiti is cool and bad. It's awesome art and bad damage to weird people.

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  94. I'M THE SAME GUY AS THE 2 PEOPLE ON TOP OF ME!
    MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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  95. I think graffiti is a way of art. People express feelings in art. It keeps kids out of trouble .Others hate but , I disagree . I don't like a boring brick wall.

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  96. I think graffiti is horrible!!! It destroys peoples property.

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  97. I disagree with julio graffiti is horrible

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  98. all this don't do graffiti because it can get you in jail stuff makes me think how many causes got people locked up in jail like the civil rights movement. and polite people rarely make history

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